Form 990 for tax year 2022
Filed by BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE INC.
Totals
- Total revenue
- $21,147,486
- Total expenses
- $29,320,772
- Contributions and grants received
- $53,944
- Grants paid
- $0
- Program service revenue
- $20,837,642
- Investment income
- $255,900
- Other revenue
- $0
- Total assets, end of year
- $104,037,513
- Total liabilities, end of year
- $183,161,170
- Net assets or fund balances, end of year
- -$79,123,657
- Program services expenses (Part IX)
- $25,213,296
- Management and general expenses
- $4,107,476
- Fundraising expenses
- $0
- Program service expenses (Part III)
- $25,213,296
Program services were 86.0% of total expenses calculated — Part IX's program-services column over total expenses, both as filed.
Line items
Every line the filer filed in Parts VIII, IX and X, as filed and in filed order. Blank columns are left out, and the lines are not forced to add up to the totals above.
Revenue
Part VIII, the statement of revenue.
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1d · Related organizations
$53,944
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2a · Program service revenue: MONTHLY SERVICE FEES
total $14,861,638 · related or exempt $14,861,638
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2b · Program service revenue: RESIDENT SERVICES
total $5,976,004 · related or exempt $5,976,004
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3 · Investment income
total $339,026 · excluded $339,026
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4 · Income from investment of tax-exempt bond proceeds
total -$66,945 · excluded -$66,945
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7b · Less cost or other basis and sales expenses
other assets $16,181
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7c · Gain or loss
other assets -$16,181
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7d · Net gain or loss
total -$16,181 · excluded -$16,181
Functional expenses
Part IX, the statement of functional expenses.
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7 · Other salaries and wages
total $8,403,434 · program services $7,745,722 · management and general $657,712
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8 · Pension plan contributions
total $43,781 · program services $39,836 · management and general $3,945
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9 · Other employee benefits
total $738,257 · program services $569,398 · management and general $168,859
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10 · Payroll taxes
total $581,376 · program services $531,276 · management and general $50,100
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11a · Fees: management
total $1,536,756 · management and general $1,536,756
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11b · Fees: legal
total $74,183 · management and general $74,183
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11c · Fees: accounting
total $48,119 · management and general $48,119
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11f · Fees: investment management
total $7,093 · management and general $7,093
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11g · Fees: other
total $779,849 · program services $592,118 · management and general $187,731
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12 · Advertising and promotion
total $587,821 · program services $587,821
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13 · Office expenses
total $420,601 · program services $342,033 · management and general $78,568
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14 · Information technology
total $239,923 · management and general $239,923
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16 · Occupancy
total $2,000,923 · program services $1,876,034 · management and general $124,889
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17 · Travel
total $21,254 · program services $16,780 · management and general $4,474
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19 · Conferences, conventions and meetings
total $21,747 · program services $8,198 · management and general $13,549
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20 · Interest
total $4,844,558 · program services $4,602,330 · management and general $242,228
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22 · Depreciation, depletion and amortization
total $3,353,683 · program services $3,018,314 · management and general $335,369
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23 · Insurance
total $1,084,988 · program services $976,489 · management and general $108,499
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24a · Other expenses: LOSS ON BOND REFINANCE
total $1,691,855 · program services $1,607,262 · management and general $84,593
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24b · Other expenses: FOOD & FOOD SERVICES
total $937,413 · program services $937,413
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24c · Other expenses: THERAPY SERVICES
total $693,202 · program services $693,202
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24d · Other expenses: EQUIP RENTAL AND MAINT
total $366,628 · program services $351,049 · management and general $15,579
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24e · All other expenses
total $843,328 · program services $718,021 · management and general $125,307
Balance sheet
Part X, book values.
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1 · Cash, non-interest-bearing
beginning of year $500 · end of year $500
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2 · Savings and temporary cash investments
beginning of year $2,324,085 · end of year $1,226,889
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4 · Accounts receivable
beginning of year $888,430 · end of year $924,785
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8 · Inventories for sale or use
beginning of year $78,791 · end of year $97,249
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9 · Prepaid expenses and deferred charges
beginning of year $165,211 · end of year $145,126
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10a · Land, buildings and equipment: cost or other basis
$115,296,037
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10b · Land, buildings and equipment: accumulated depreciation
$32,678,903
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10c · Land, buildings and equipment, net
beginning of year $85,156,760 · end of year $82,617,134
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11 · Investments: publicly traded securities
beginning of year $5,236,304 · end of year $1,112,900
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15 · Other assets
beginning of year $15,997,534 · end of year $17,912,930
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17 · Accounts payable and accrued expenses
beginning of year $1,425,589 · end of year $1,182,889
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19 · Deferred revenue
beginning of year $72,059 · end of year $100,511
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20 · Tax-exempt bond liabilities
beginning of year $79,034,558 · end of year $88,884,779
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25 · Other liabilities
beginning of year $97,888,844 · end of year $92,992,991
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27 · Net assets without donor restrictions
beginning of year -$69,128,785 · end of year -$79,588,524
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28 · Net assets with donor restrictions
beginning of year $555,350 · end of year $464,867
Mission and programs · 2022
Mission
TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT SERVICES AND FACILITIES TO BENEFIT THE LARGEST POSSIBLE SEGMENT OF THE SENIOR POPULATION LIVING IN BONITA SPRINGS, FLORIDA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
Activities or mission (Part I)
TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT SERVICES TO SENIOR CITIZENS.
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BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE, INC. PROVIDED CLEANING, LAUNDRY, MAINTENANCE, MEALS, SECURITY AND UTILITIES TO SENIORS IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS SERVED PER DAY IN 2022 WERE APPROXIMATELY 157.
Expenses $10,997,730 · Revenue $9,745,698
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BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE, INC. PROVIDED CLEANING, LAUNDRY, MAINTENANCE, MEALS, SECURITY AND UTILITIES TO ASSISTED LIVING AND MEMORY SUPPORT SENIORS IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THE TOTAL RESIDENT DAYS SERVED IN 2022 WERE 17,967.
Expenses $6,074,143 · Revenue $4,233,728
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BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE, INC. PROVIDED SKILLED NURSING AND RELATED HEALTH CARE SERVICES, INCLUDING THERAPY FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNABLE TO CARE FOR THEMSELVES. THE TOTAL PATIENT DAYS SERVED IN 2022 WERE 12,721.
Expenses $8,141,423 · Revenue $6,858,216
As filed on the 2022 return.
Listed in Part VII
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Lawrence G SchreiberLAWRENCE G SCHREIBER
CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER/DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $7,380,821
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $2,028,776
- Other
- $5,352,045
- Hours/week
- 1.5 + 58.5 related
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $0 + $1,034,262 related
- Bonus
- $0 + $723,436 related
- Other
- $0 + $271,078 related
- Deferred
- $0 + $5,330,295 related
- Nontaxable benefits
- $0 + $21,750 related
- Filer's total
- $0 + $7,380,821 related
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Steven M ZieglerSTEVEN M ZIEGLER
ASSISTANT SECRETARY
- Total calculated
- $1,531,916
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $650,123
- Other
- $881,793
- Hours/week
- 0.5 + 59.5 related
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $0 + $412,509 related
- Bonus
- $0 + $117,256 related
- Other
- $0 + $120,358 related
- Deferred
- $0 + $853,377 related
- Nontaxable benefits
- $0 + $28,416 related
- Filer's total
- $0 + $1,531,916 related
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Randall L StuartRANDALL L STUART
ASSISTANT TREASURER (THRU 3/31/22)
- Total calculated
- $949,039
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $904,878
- Other
- $44,161
- Hours/week
- 0.5 + 59.5 related
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $0 + $172,863 related
- Bonus
- $0 + $145,772 related
- Other
- $0 + $586,243 related
- Deferred
- $0 + $36,811 related
- Nontaxable benefits
- $0 + $7,350 related
- Filer's total
- $0 + $949,039 related
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Philip G BowlingPHILIP G BOWLING
ASSISTANT TREASURER
- Total calculated
- $608,518
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $511,203
- Other
- $97,315
- Hours/week
- 0.5 + 59.5 related
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $0 + $376,923 related
- Bonus
- $0
- Other
- $0 + $134,280 related
- Deferred
- $0 + $77,531 related
- Nontaxable benefits
- $0 + $19,784 related
- Filer's total
- $0 + $608,518 related
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Ronald E JennetteRONALD E JENNETTE
PRESIDENT
- Total calculated
- $396,333
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $353,438
- Other
- $42,895
- Hours/week
- 15 + 45 related
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $0 + $306,816 related
- Bonus
- $0
- Other
- $0 + $46,622 related
- Deferred
- $0 + $31,079 related
- Nontaxable benefits
- $0 + $11,816 related
- Filer's total
- $0 + $396,333 related
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Troy R HartTROY R HART
PRESIDENT (THRU 1/15/22)
- Total calculated
- $191,321
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $187,103
- Other
- $4,218
- Hours/week
- 15 + 45 related
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $0 + $106,331 related
- Bonus
- $0
- Other
- $0 + $80,772 related
- Deferred
- $0 + $676 related
- Nontaxable benefits
- $0 + $3,542 related
- Filer's total
- $0 + $191,321 related
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David GrayDAVID GRAY
HEALTH CARE ADMINISTRATOR
- Total calculated
- $174,800
- From this org
- $149,200
- From related orgs
- $0
- Other
- $25,600
- Hours/week
- 40
Schedule J breakdown matched by us
- Base
- $143,824
- Bonus
- $0
- Other
- $5,376
- Deferred
- $0
- Nontaxable benefits
- $25,600
- Filer's total
- $174,800
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Rachel L HendersonRACHEL L HENDERSON
DIRECTOR OF COMMISSION REL AND SALES
- Total calculated
- $145,503
- From this org
- $133,923
- From related orgs
- $0
- Other
- $11,580
- Hours/week
- 40
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Lisa CoxLISA COX
NURSING DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $137,934
- From this org
- $125,112
- From related orgs
- $0
- Other
- $12,822
- Hours/week
- 40
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Amanda R KaiserAMANDA R KAISER
REGISTERED NURSE
- Total calculated
- $131,089
- From this org
- $111,607
- From related orgs
- $0
- Other
- $19,482
- Hours/week
- 40
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Alan D SaylesALAN D SAYLES
DIRECTOR OF DINING SERVICE OPERATIONS
- Total calculated
- $128,259
- From this org
- $119,718
- From related orgs
- $0
- Other
- $8,541
- Hours/week
- 40
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Glenda E HoodGLENDA E HOOD
CHAIR/DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $55,158
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $55,158
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 2.9 related
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Benjamin I Doerr JrBENJAMIN I DOERR JR
TREASURER/DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $45,596
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $45,596
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Jackson N Sasser PhDJACKSON N SASSER PHD
VICE CHAIR/DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $45,269
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $45,269
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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James D LeeJAMES D LEE
DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $43,469
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $43,469
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Pamela J Mooney PhDPAMELA J MOONEY PHD
DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $43,142
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $43,142
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Katherine L FernandezKATHERINE L FERNANDEZ
SECRETARY/DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $41,996
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $41,996
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Kevin R MaddronKEVIN R MADDRON
DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $27,779
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $27,779
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Gregory A HaileGREGORY A HAILE
DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $27,779
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $27,779
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Rita M BarretoRITA M BARRETO
DIRECTOR
- Total calculated
- $27,779
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $27,779
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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George E FletcherGEORGE E FLETCHER
DIRECTOR (THRU 3/31/22)
- Total calculated
- $13,890
- From this org
- $0
- From related orgs
- $13,890
- Other
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
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Robert L EplingROBERT L EPLING
TREASURER/DIRECTOR (THRU 1/31/22)
- Total calculated
- $0
- Hours/week
- 0.1 + 1.4 related
Compensation is as filed in Part VII: reportable pay from this organization and from related organizations, other compensation, and hours per week. The total, marked calculated, is our sum of the three dollar columns, with a blank column counted as $0; the form itself has no total. On a Form 990-EZ the columns are Part IV's instead, and on a Form 990-PF Part VIII's — compensation, contributions to benefit plans, and expense account — and the total sums those. A Schedule J breakdown is as filed: base pay, bonus, other, deferred compensation and nontaxable benefits from this organization, with any from related organizations beside each, and the filer's own total. It is shown with the Part VII listing of the same name on the same return. The form gives no key between the two, so that pairing is ours, and is marked matched by us.
Schedule J
Answered yes
- 4b · Supplemental nonqualified retirement plan
Answered no
- 4a · Severance or change-of-control payment
- 4c · Equity-based compensation arrangement
- 5a · Pay contingent on this organization's revenues
- 5b · Pay contingent on a related organization's revenues
- 6a · Pay contingent on this organization's net earnings
- 6b · Pay contingent on a related organization's net earnings
- 7 · Other non-fixed payments
- 8 · Paid under the initial-contract exception
The filer's explanations (Part III)
- PART I, LINE 3
- LAWRENCE G SCHREIBER IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER (CEO) OF BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE, INC. MR. SCHREIBER IS COMPENSATED BY SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC., A RELATED SUPPORTING ORGANIZATION. SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. UTILIZES THE FOLLOWING PROCESS TO ESTABLISH THE CEO'S COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS: ANNUALLY, THE SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. BOARD OF DIRECTORS RETAINS AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS CONSULTING FIRM (FIRM) TO CONDUCT A MARKET COMPETITIVENESS REVIEW OF THE CEO'S TOTAL DIRECT COMPENSATION (BASE SALARY, ANNUAL INCENTIVES, AND LONG TERM INCENTIVES) AND BENEFITS. THE COMPETITIVE ANALYSIS INCLUDES COMPARISON TO SIMILAR POSITIONS IN COMPANIES OF SIMILAR SIZE WITHIN THE SAME OR SIMILAR INDUSTRY. THE FIRM MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS, IF ANY, DIRECTLY TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ESTABLISHES THE FINAL COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT PACKAGE FOR THE CEO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE MARKET COMPETITIVENESS REVIEW AND FINAL RECOMMENDATION OF THE FIRM. THE FIRM PROVIDES AN OPINION LETTER REGARDING THE REASONABLENESS OF THE CEO'S FINAL COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS PACKAGE. THE ACTIONS OF THE BOARD ARE DOCUMENTED IN THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD MEETING.
- PART I, LINE 4B
- (RELATES TO PART I, LINE 4A): LISTED PERSONS ARE EMPLOYEES OF BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE, INC. OR RELATED ORGANIZATIONS. BONITA SPRINGS RETIREMENT VILLAGE, INC. EMPLOYEES ARE NOT COVERED BY A FORMAL SEVERANCE POLICY; SEVERANCE IS HANDLED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. EMPLOYEES OF RELATED ORGANIZATIONS ARE COVERED BY A SEVERANCE POLICY WHICH INCLUDES MONTHLY PAYMENTS UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 12 - 36 MONTHS UNDER QUALIFYING CIRCUMSTANCES AND DEPENDING ON POSITION. NO ONE LISTED RECEIVED SEVERANCE OR CHANGE OF CONTROL PAYMENTS DURING 2022. PART I, LINE 4B: LISTED PERSONS PARTICIPATING IN A SUPPLEMENTAL NONQUALIFIED RETIREMENT PLAN IN THE YEAR: LAWRENCE G SCHREIBER, RANDALL L STUART (THROUGH 3/31/2022), PHILIP G BOWLING, STEVEN M ZIEGLER, TROY R HART (THROUGH 1/15/2022) AND RONALD E JENNETTE ARE EMPLOYEES OF SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC., A RELATED SUPPORTING ORGANIZATION. THEY PARTICIPATE IN TWO NONQUALIFIED DEFERRED COMPENSATION RETIREMENT PLANS SPONSORED BY SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. FOR A CERTAIN GROUP OF EXECUTIVES. ONE PLAN RESTORES RETIREMENT BENEFITS EQUIVALENT TO QUALIFIED 401(K) BENEFITS ON INCOME EARNED IN EXCESS OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE CODE SECTION 401(A)(17) RECOGNIZABLE PAY LIMITS (A DEFINED CONTRIBUTION RESTORATION PLAN). VESTING FOR THIS PLAN IS ACHIEVED AT AGE 55 AND 10 YEARS OF SERVICE OR AT AGE 65 AND 5 YEARS OF SERVICE. THE SECOND SUPPLEMENTAL DEFINED CONTRIBUTION PLAN PROVIDES ADDITIONAL RETIREMENT INCOME BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF BASE SALARY AND VESTS AT THREE AND FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE. MR. STUART VESTED AND RECEIVED $526,840 FROM SUPPLEMENTAL NONQUALIFIED RETIREMENT PLANS IN 2022. MR. SCHREIBER VESTED AND RECEIVED $117,037 FROM A SUPPLEMENTAL NONQUALIFIED RETIREMENT PLAN IN 2022. MR. ZIEGLER VESTED AND RECEIVED $98,272 FROM SUPPLEMENTAL NONQUALIFIED RETIREMENT PLANS IN 2022. MR. HART VESTED AND RECEIVED $52,951 FROM A SUPPLEMENTAL NONQUALIFIED RETIREMENT PLAN IN 2022.
- SCHEDULE J, PART II:
- CERTAIN SENIOR EXECUTIVES ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR AND PERFORM SERVICES FOR SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. AND EACH OF ITS AFFILIATES. SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. AND AFFILIATES REPRESENT A DIVERSIFIED FAMILY OF NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. THESE SENIOR EXECUTIVES ARE PAID DIRECTLY BY SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC., AND THEIR COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS ARE APPORTIONED AND CHARGED TO THE RESPECTIVE AFFILIATES BASED ON THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF TIME SPENT ON EACH AFFILIATE'S ACTIVITIES.
- SCHEDULE J, PART II, COLUMN C:
- LAWRENCE G SCHREIBER AND STEVEN M ZIEGLER ARE EMPLOYEES OF SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. AS A RESULT OF THE SALE OF AVMED, INC. AS DESCRIBED IN SCHEDULE R, MR. SCHREIBER AND MR. ZIEGLER EARNED ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION PAYABLE IN 2023 AND 2024, WHICH IS CONTINGENT UPON THEIR EMPLOYMENT BY SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. THE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION WILL BE PAID ENTIRELY BY SANTAFE HEALTHCARE, INC. AND WILL NOT BE ALLOCATED OR CHARGED TO ITS AFFILIATES. THE ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION IS REPORTED AS DEFERRED IN SCHEDULE J, PART II, COLUMN C FOR MR. SCHREIBER AND MR. ZIEGLER AND TOTALS $5,000,000 AND $841,177, RESPECTIVELY.
Part I's answers as filed. A line not listed was left unanswered; on lines 1a and 3 that means the box was not checked.
Grants on this return
No itemized grants to organizations on this return.
Related organizations on this return
Schedule R Part II: tax-exempt organizations related to the filer by control. It does not record shared board members or money.
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501(C)(3) · MANAGEMENT AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR NOT-FOR-PROFIT AFFILIATES · FL
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NORTH FLORIDA RETIREMENT VILLAGE INC
501(C)(3) · RETIREMENT COMMUNITY · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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NORTH CENTRAL FLORIDA HOSPICE INC
501(C)(3) · HOSPICE CARE · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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501(C)(3) · MANAGEMENT AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR NOT-FOR-PROFIT AFFILIATES · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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501(C)(3) · RETIREMENT COMMUNITY · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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EAST RIDGE RETIREMENT VILLAGE INC
501(C)(3) · RETIREMENT COMMUNITY · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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SANTAFE SENIOR LIVING FOUNDATION INC
501(C)(3) · CHARITABLE AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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501(C)(4) · HEALTH CARE · FL
Directly controlled by SENTARA HEALTHCARE
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501(C)(3) · HOSPICE CARE & HOME HEALTH CARE · FL
Directly controlled by SANTAFE HEALTHCARE INC
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501(C)(3) · CHARITABLE AND EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES · FL
Directly controlled by NORTH CENTRAL FLORIDA HOSPICE INC
Taxable family on this return
Schedule R Parts I, III and IV, as filed. These record ownership and control, not shared board members or money moved.
Related corporations and trusts
Part IV: related organizations taxable as a corporation or trust.
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SF HOLDING CORP INC
C · HOLDING COMPANY · FL
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AVMED ADMINISTRATORS INC
C · THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES · FL
Provenance
- Return type
- form_990
- Tax year
- 2022
- Filed
- 8 November 2023
- IRS schema version
- 2022v5.0
- Source object
- 202323129349303702
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